Reps and Iteration + Startup Selection Thoughts

Reps and Iteration:

I never believe I'll have anything right out the gate. I believe in reps, iteration and not getting "___ed out," losing the ability to keep playing.

When I attach myself to an InsurTech project or company I look for a few things. Here's my humble list:

1) Do I like and trust the people Trust is paramount. Without trust you won't be able to create. This doesn't mean you don't keep an eye on things for the rest of the journey, but if you have any unease early, why start?

2) Have I seen this technology work other places? This is an easy one for insurance / InsurTech. If APIs are working for airline pricing, why are they not working in insurance? There is one thing to watch out for though, being early can be the same as being wrong.

3) Do I think there is a reasonable chance of success, and will I learn something?

I am pulling the second half of this from Tim Ferriss. If I am going to learn something from working or hanging with a new group of people I am usually game to hang and help. Is there a reasonable chance of success? This doesn't have to be a 2 billion dollar exit. This could be a self-sustaining small business. Anything that creates autonomy is a success in my mind.

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#InsurTech 2.0 or 3.0?

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The game escalated. People are making better podcasts and YouTube videos. Startups are growing up, dying, being acquired or rocketing off on their own. InsurTech was once a place where you could be ahead of the crowd just by being in the conversation, now you really have to dig in. This is my attempt to return to the written side of the conversation.

InsurTech 2.0 or 3.0?

I am stealing "InsurTech 2.0" from a recent Coverager video, but I really think we are in the second or third iteration of this. It's interesting how the starter InsurTechs got mad when the carriers and big money showed up, like they knew about a band early, and then were upset to hear them sounding mainstream on the radio. Which I understood. More recently, I have seen brokers and agents on the InsurTech seen too, which surprised me, I am used to being only one who pounds the pavement in "InsurTech" rooms.

This Had to Happen

Technology digitizes what was once analog, for instance, tickets at a restaurant are now being transferred to the kitchen via tablets. Claims photos are being sent in from Lift drivers with drones. If there are efficiencies in other markets (APIs for airline tickets for instance), it only makes sense that they're going to flourish in our 7 trillion dollar industry like insurance too.

I never looked at InsurTechs as competition, partially because I was new and had nothing to defend, but more so because it seemed like an opportunity to do more with less. InsurTech tools and companies have always seemed lighter and more nimble too, plus their doors are open and they're game to work with new agents.

The Two Become One

It makes sense that the carriers waited to see what InsurTechs and startups could sus up before becoming involved. It's not a perfect analogy, but if you are leading a 10,000 person army, you're not going to worry about recruiting 10-20 good fighters, but if those fighters reach 200-300 people and are very effective you're going to welcome them in with open arms. InsurTechs have proved their worth, and now it's a matter of seeing what seasoned InsurTechs and Insurance can do together.

You're Still Going to Need a Homebase

This is speaking from an "agent boots on the ground" perspective. If you're looking to offer multiple products or sell upmarket I still think having a brick and mortar, or the appearance of an office, will help. If you are selling a single thing direct to a consumer you may be able to get away with running it all off a website, but I still think you need an agent and a face for credibility, especially for working on projects at scale. The cool thing is you can really scale your reach and credibility through cool web tools though.

What is Coming Next?

I think agents are going to get more and more savvy, and they'll need traditional agency services less and less, hard marketing materials, office assistants, etc. You can plug in your HR tools, you can automate marketing, you can have a back office in a different country. Especially with the bulk of insurance talent being in their late 50s and early 60s, the next generations is going to have to digitize and automate, but I think you'll still want that local touch to bring in high-value clients.

In Summation

Insurance and InsurTech are going to keep intersecting until they're one thing, and the industry will be a new version of its old self. Startups will become mature companies, have processes and rules, and smaller companies (startups) will try and run past them again. The cycle is going to repeat, but not as violently as this time, this was the web and globalization really impacting the insurance industry.

You're going to need that human touch, in my opinion, unless it's a one-off direct product. Carriers are going to make smoother and smoother apps, but they're still going to move rather slow. Savvy groups like AON are going to continue to scoop up the Coverwallets of the world as an extension of their brand and to grow their brain trust. I wouldn't be surprised if the more senior InsurTechs scoop up the younger ones too, like Spotify (the streaming giant) buying The Ringer (a startup media company) for a billion dollars. Part of the Spotify-Ringer deal was Bill Simmons (The Ringer CEO) helping to figure out the podcast roadmap for Spotify too.

In my humble opinion, everything changes and everything stays the same. I don't see insurance / insurtech being any different.

Unknowns

IOT, CoronaVirus, 5G and the 2020 US Election should be interesting wrinkles this coming era for insurance. I think we're going to see a lot more embedded insurance like Tesla offers, and companies like ACORNs adding insurance offerings to their suite of services. They'll take pieces of business, but think the majority of business will be in agents' hands for a good long time.

Thank You

If you have made it this far in the article, I really appreciate it. This was definitely a broadly brushed piece, I'll try and drill down into more specific topics next time.

Cheers,

-Broker Brett

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Carry a lunch-pail, and try and think like a VC

I am lucky to be involved in a lot of cool projects right now. I have FINAEO, a rad FinTech in Canada that’s coming to the US (FINAEO), my buddy Blake’s benefits agency (Maxwell Agency) where I get to grow my P&C skills, and I am proud to be a contributing member of the Insurance Nerds family which has immensely grown my network. My wise wife said I am only allowed to dabble in things around insurance for the time being, haha.

I choose projects by the knowledge that cane be gained, financial opportunity, and maybe most importantly, the team. Working at Maxwell Insurance we’re building a very tradition (though tech-driven) agency, the upside is understandable and the work is clear. Working with FINAEO, there’s a remarkable hill to climb, but the vistas from the top have the potential to be spectacular. On the FINAEO side, we’re looking to digitize something that has barely been touched by technology, the Financial Planning industry.

I believe the team is the most important part because with the right talent and mindset, I really believe a collection of people can solve just about anything. That’s why I am excited a fellow Rising Tide investment is working on something like Carbon Capture, but that’s another story. Not everyone on a team can be LeBron James, you need some Luis Scolas, some Richard Jeffersons, and Shane Battiers to win too.

I consider myself a grinder. I grew up sales-wise in the era (early 2010s) of knocking doors and making cold calls off of collected business cards and a 1 page paper script. Though analytics may have been driving some sales floors, it was not driving ours, the occasional desk pound and expletive from the bosses office got you back in motion, haha. We had our metrics, 2 hours of calls, go collect 30 cards, 2 hours of calls again. The base salary way llloooowww, and your only hope was commission, this was 2009 / 2010.

Sports, working construction and in restaurants, and that first year of sales all began making me a pretty good grinder. I stuck around my next job for 6 years, but go licensed in insurance to help lead generation in that roll, I helped a few startups on nights and weekends too. I kept having “5-9s” to get out of the “9-5.” The first true tech startup I helped was in 2014-2016, it gave me my first taste of trying to bring modern tech into a place where it hasn’t been, banking. My friend built a phenomenal data visualization product, and I was proud to have brought the first money in, but our first target didn’t want what we had built, and we ran out of time and couldn’t find another.

I have helped a handful of small businesses and tech startups now, The work I have done has never been sexy, it’s been spreadsheets, calls, sometimes off of a personal cell at lunch, while trying to sniff out knowledge and trying to be acutely aware of true traction. I say “carry a lunch-pail, and try and think like a VC” because your time is valuable. You will only get to invest your efforts into a handful of companies during your professional career, and in order for your teams to win, they’ll need every team members aware and alert.

Don’t be afraid to do the hard, potentially boring, monotonous work, but don’t stop thinking and considering your time an investment too.

-Broker Brett

Please feel free to add me on LinkedIn, and or to reach out with any startup or InsurTech related questions, and thank you for taking the time to read this article too.

Brett Fulmer

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